Lest we Forget my Tribute to them all all
The horrors of World War 1 would have been very similar for all those who fought. Soldiers from all countries and nationalities would have all gone through the same thing, the only things that would have been different would have been ,the way they got to war, who they fought with and the injuries if any, were they killed , returned to New Zealand because of there injuries or returned to the front after recuperating from an injury
This page shows some of the differences that these young men faced , all are family members or related to family members .I have not told all there story as most will be the same as pops but where it is different I have entered there story as best I can
William Ernest Wright
William Ernest Wright Regiment number 53107 was the son of Jesse and Sarah Wright of 42 Lincoln road Masterton ,
He left New Zealand on 4 July 1917 as part of the 28th Reinforcement on HMNZT 89 sailing on the Waitemata in conjunction with the Ulimaroa HMNZT 90 after enlisting on 23 Feb 1917 He was part of the Wellington Infantry Regiment B Company He left New Zealand but was disembarked at Albany on the 24 july 1917 and returned to New Zealand as medically unfit the rest of the 28 Reinforcement continued there voyage
Waitemata
Cargo steamship built by William Hamilton & Co, Glen Yard Port Glasgow
for the Union Steamship Co of New Zealand Ltd.
registered number 127801
5432 gross tons
length 126.49m, breadth 16.46m, depth 5.36m.
powered by a Dunsmuir and Jackson Single screw, triple expansion engine of 548 nhp
Her propulsion was a single screw giving her a speed of 10 knots
14 July 1918 torpedoed and sunk by submarine UB105 when 100 miles E by N of Marsa Susa (33.21N/24.10E) on passage from Barry to Alexandria with coal and calcium carbide
His records say returned to NZ but they dont show how or when this happened so im thinking he remained in Albany
The next entry on his record shows that on the 13 March 1918 he embarked on the Ormonde from Freemantle and arrived a little bit under a month later on the 4 April 1918 in Suez Once in Suez he was taken on strength and for a month was at the Australian Camp
His records then show that he was transferred to Port Tewfik, then boarded the same Ship Ormonde and transported to Southhampton England arriving there on the 15 may 1918
As with my pop Churchill Peach ,William spent until September 1918 training, Pop was in Artillery and William was in infantry so there training was different , time wise and held in different places also
Looking at Williams records it shows he was in Larkhill which was where the Australians trained. While training William Ernest Wright as Hospitalized at a military Hospital in Tidworth but later rejoined his unit and continued training at Larkhill Camp He left for France on the 18 September 1918 where he joined 9 Company
This page shows some of the differences that these young men faced , all are family members or related to family members .I have not told all there story as most will be the same as pops but where it is different I have entered there story as best I can
William Ernest Wright
William Ernest Wright Regiment number 53107 was the son of Jesse and Sarah Wright of 42 Lincoln road Masterton ,
He left New Zealand on 4 July 1917 as part of the 28th Reinforcement on HMNZT 89 sailing on the Waitemata in conjunction with the Ulimaroa HMNZT 90 after enlisting on 23 Feb 1917 He was part of the Wellington Infantry Regiment B Company He left New Zealand but was disembarked at Albany on the 24 july 1917 and returned to New Zealand as medically unfit the rest of the 28 Reinforcement continued there voyage
Waitemata
Cargo steamship built by William Hamilton & Co, Glen Yard Port Glasgow
for the Union Steamship Co of New Zealand Ltd.
registered number 127801
5432 gross tons
length 126.49m, breadth 16.46m, depth 5.36m.
powered by a Dunsmuir and Jackson Single screw, triple expansion engine of 548 nhp
Her propulsion was a single screw giving her a speed of 10 knots
14 July 1918 torpedoed and sunk by submarine UB105 when 100 miles E by N of Marsa Susa (33.21N/24.10E) on passage from Barry to Alexandria with coal and calcium carbide
His records say returned to NZ but they dont show how or when this happened so im thinking he remained in Albany
The next entry on his record shows that on the 13 March 1918 he embarked on the Ormonde from Freemantle and arrived a little bit under a month later on the 4 April 1918 in Suez Once in Suez he was taken on strength and for a month was at the Australian Camp
His records then show that he was transferred to Port Tewfik, then boarded the same Ship Ormonde and transported to Southhampton England arriving there on the 15 may 1918
As with my pop Churchill Peach ,William spent until September 1918 training, Pop was in Artillery and William was in infantry so there training was different , time wise and held in different places also
Looking at Williams records it shows he was in Larkhill which was where the Australians trained. While training William Ernest Wright as Hospitalized at a military Hospital in Tidworth but later rejoined his unit and continued training at Larkhill Camp He left for France on the 18 September 1918 where he joined 9 Company
After being there for only just over a month he was wounded in action on 12 october 1918 his records show left arm ,neck and jaw
In Williams records it has his personel details Age,,next of kin,Complextion, Eye colour and Religion , it also has his height which was 6 foot ¾ inches tall and his weight 154 ib 69.85 kg making him tall and skinny . He was very tall for a soldier, the average height was only about 5 foot 9 inches
Being tall wasnt the best thing as a lot of time was spenrt in trenches. Were his injures at the end of the war caused because he was tall his injures are consistant with not keeping your head down ie Neck and jaw , left arm injures. His records are very detailed here , they include Field Ambulance on the 12 october , then 18 causality clearing station the following day ( between 29 april 1918 and 6 nov 1918 18 CCS was based in Malassises ) and then to 6th General Hospital ( Rouen ) on the 14th October 1918
Eight days later on the 22 October 1918 he was Admitted to the Royal Victoria Hospital Netley, a military hospilal near Southhampton , he stayed there until the 22 November 1918 when he was transferred to 1 General hospital in Brockenhurst , Churchill Peach my pop also spent time in Brockenhurst Hospital. William Ernest Wright was discharged from Brockenhurst on the 10 December 1918
He embarked for New Zealand on the 8 january 1919 sailing on the Matatoa ,he was discharged on account of wounds received in action on the 30 April 1919
I have not gone into much detail as much of the details are very simiular to my pops time spent in hospital after being injured ie Field Ambulance , 18 CCS then Hospital either in France or back in the UK then finally returned to New Zealand
During his lite in the army he was promted to L corp on the 4 june 1917 and then the next month promoted to cpl on the 12 july 1917 .After the war he received 2 medals ,the British war medal and the Victory medal. These were the same as my Pops
At this stage I have not found all the information I would like such as his Nominal Roll and his records when in hospital that will show his injures and confirm the Hospital he was in
In Williams records it has his personel details Age,,next of kin,Complextion, Eye colour and Religion , it also has his height which was 6 foot ¾ inches tall and his weight 154 ib 69.85 kg making him tall and skinny . He was very tall for a soldier, the average height was only about 5 foot 9 inches
Being tall wasnt the best thing as a lot of time was spenrt in trenches. Were his injures at the end of the war caused because he was tall his injures are consistant with not keeping your head down ie Neck and jaw , left arm injures. His records are very detailed here , they include Field Ambulance on the 12 october , then 18 causality clearing station the following day ( between 29 april 1918 and 6 nov 1918 18 CCS was based in Malassises ) and then to 6th General Hospital ( Rouen ) on the 14th October 1918
Eight days later on the 22 October 1918 he was Admitted to the Royal Victoria Hospital Netley, a military hospilal near Southhampton , he stayed there until the 22 November 1918 when he was transferred to 1 General hospital in Brockenhurst , Churchill Peach my pop also spent time in Brockenhurst Hospital. William Ernest Wright was discharged from Brockenhurst on the 10 December 1918
He embarked for New Zealand on the 8 january 1919 sailing on the Matatoa ,he was discharged on account of wounds received in action on the 30 April 1919
I have not gone into much detail as much of the details are very simiular to my pops time spent in hospital after being injured ie Field Ambulance , 18 CCS then Hospital either in France or back in the UK then finally returned to New Zealand
During his lite in the army he was promted to L corp on the 4 june 1917 and then the next month promoted to cpl on the 12 july 1917 .After the war he received 2 medals ,the British war medal and the Victory medal. These were the same as my Pops
At this stage I have not found all the information I would like such as his Nominal Roll and his records when in hospital that will show his injures and confirm the Hospital he was in
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New Zealand, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
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Alfred Ernest Hyde
Alfred Ernest Hyde was my grandfather but on my Dads side of the family, his military records show nothing other than his personel records Age, Address next of Kin , Height , Weight ect and medical details no service records, Yep it confused me too
On 1 August 1916 the Military Service Act of 1916 was enacted .Conscription legislation required all men aged between 20 and 45 to register as reservists and to submit to a medical examination, they were then entered into the conscription Ballet (a selection process involving the random drawing of people to be called up for service ) for active service in the NZEF. These ballots were held nearly every month between November 1916 to October 1918.
Anyone called up could appeal to the newly established Military Service board based on limited grounds set out in section 18 of the Act .. this included : not being a reservists, being employed in a occupation which would be contrary to the public interest and that his joining up would cause undue hardship to himself or others , also that he was a member of a religious organisation
All appeal hearings were held in public, this allowing the proceedings of the appeal to be published in the local newspaper .There was no further right of appeal however after the hearing so once the decision was given there decision were final.
Estimates show that around 32% of all conscripted men appealed on one ground or another
Employers applied for workers to be exempt from military service because they worked in essential industry, and from 1917 the government issued guidelines on which industries were considered essential and which were not..From early 1917 the Military boards could also appoint trustees to manage soldiers’ businesses while they were away.
The board struggled to make judgments in personal hardship cases, so the government made financial provision for soldiers’ families in order to free the breadwinners from household
The Defence Department divided all the eligible men into several ‘divisions’, each of which would be exhausted before the next was called up.
The First Division, single men without wives or children started in November 1916
Class A, Second Division: married men without children started in October 1917
Class B, Second Division: married men with one child
Class C, Second Division: married men with two children
Class D married men with three children
Class E married men with four children
Class F married men with five or more children
Alfred Ernest Hyde was my grandfather but on my Dads side of the family, his military records show nothing other than his personel records Age, Address next of Kin , Height , Weight ect and medical details no service records, Yep it confused me too
On 1 August 1916 the Military Service Act of 1916 was enacted .Conscription legislation required all men aged between 20 and 45 to register as reservists and to submit to a medical examination, they were then entered into the conscription Ballet (a selection process involving the random drawing of people to be called up for service ) for active service in the NZEF. These ballots were held nearly every month between November 1916 to October 1918.
Anyone called up could appeal to the newly established Military Service board based on limited grounds set out in section 18 of the Act .. this included : not being a reservists, being employed in a occupation which would be contrary to the public interest and that his joining up would cause undue hardship to himself or others , also that he was a member of a religious organisation
All appeal hearings were held in public, this allowing the proceedings of the appeal to be published in the local newspaper .There was no further right of appeal however after the hearing so once the decision was given there decision were final.
Estimates show that around 32% of all conscripted men appealed on one ground or another
Employers applied for workers to be exempt from military service because they worked in essential industry, and from 1917 the government issued guidelines on which industries were considered essential and which were not..From early 1917 the Military boards could also appoint trustees to manage soldiers’ businesses while they were away.
The board struggled to make judgments in personal hardship cases, so the government made financial provision for soldiers’ families in order to free the breadwinners from household
The Defence Department divided all the eligible men into several ‘divisions’, each of which would be exhausted before the next was called up.
The First Division, single men without wives or children started in November 1916
Class A, Second Division: married men without children started in October 1917
Class B, Second Division: married men with one child
Class C, Second Division: married men with two children
Class D married men with three children
Class E married men with four children
Class F married men with five or more children
Manawatu Times 23 November 1917
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Manawatu Times, Volume XL, Issue 13752, 23 November 1917
Manawatu Standard 28 May 1918
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Manawatu Standard, Volume XLIII, Issue 1257, 28 May 1918
Manawatu Times 29 May 1918
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Manawatu Times, Volume XL, Issue 13898, 29 May 1918
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Manawatu Times, Volume XL, Issue 13752, 23 November 1917
Manawatu Standard 28 May 1918
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Manawatu Standard, Volume XLIII, Issue 1257, 28 May 1918
Manawatu Times 29 May 1918
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Manawatu Times, Volume XL, Issue 13898, 29 May 1918
Alfred Ernest Hyde enlisted on 11 october 1917 in Palmerston North, he received his regiment number 85280 , he was 29 years and 2 month old. Was he to old to enlist NO he fitted into the age group the army were looking for 20 to 45 years old.
Between enlisting and going to camp Alfred appealed on the grounds of undue hardship, he stated that he had married in June of 1915 and lived on his 60 acre farm for the past 5 years where he and his wife milked between 24 and 30 cows by hand. That he had 5 brothers who had been conscripted in the second Division in various parts of New Zealand and he did not think his brother-in-law would look after this farm and his wifes other brother was in Camp as well. Also the farm would not pay for itself if he put a man on to farm his property
The appeal was dismissed, the military court said that Alfred had made no effort to arrange matters so that he could get away , but granted him leave until the July draft
His records show he was in Trentham on the 17 July 1918 being posted to B Coy 44th and then he was transferred to 48th NZFA 4 days later on the 21 July 1918 as a Gunner to Featherston Military Camp . On the 5 August 1918 while still in Featherston he was in hospital for 2 days with influenza, still with the 48th NZFA on 24 September 1918 he was charged with Breaking out of Isolation and he forfeited 4 days pay as his punishment , his records do not show why he was in Isolation in the first place
One thing his records do show that is interesting is that when they did a test for his eye sight , both eyes look like he has some problem it shows eyes 6/9 … does that mean he only had part vision, I have never seen him in a photo with glasses on though
WW1 finished on the 11 of November 1918 and Alfred was Demobilized on the 19 November 1918 ,still in Featherston Camp, because he did not serve overseas on active service Alfred did not qualify for any awards
Even though Alfred Ernest Hyde did not go to war , he trained to go to the war, if the war had gone on for longer he would have gone, thankfully he didnt have to. Did he stand up when his country asked him too , I think so !!! Alfred got married to Eleanor Louise Wilkinson in 30 June 1915 but he still left his wife to go and train for war after first thinking about his family and what would happen if he was away, I never meet Alfred as he died before I was born but he lead a interesting life and he was missed by all his family RIP Mr Hyde
Between enlisting and going to camp Alfred appealed on the grounds of undue hardship, he stated that he had married in June of 1915 and lived on his 60 acre farm for the past 5 years where he and his wife milked between 24 and 30 cows by hand. That he had 5 brothers who had been conscripted in the second Division in various parts of New Zealand and he did not think his brother-in-law would look after this farm and his wifes other brother was in Camp as well. Also the farm would not pay for itself if he put a man on to farm his property
The appeal was dismissed, the military court said that Alfred had made no effort to arrange matters so that he could get away , but granted him leave until the July draft
His records show he was in Trentham on the 17 July 1918 being posted to B Coy 44th and then he was transferred to 48th NZFA 4 days later on the 21 July 1918 as a Gunner to Featherston Military Camp . On the 5 August 1918 while still in Featherston he was in hospital for 2 days with influenza, still with the 48th NZFA on 24 September 1918 he was charged with Breaking out of Isolation and he forfeited 4 days pay as his punishment , his records do not show why he was in Isolation in the first place
One thing his records do show that is interesting is that when they did a test for his eye sight , both eyes look like he has some problem it shows eyes 6/9 … does that mean he only had part vision, I have never seen him in a photo with glasses on though
WW1 finished on the 11 of November 1918 and Alfred was Demobilized on the 19 November 1918 ,still in Featherston Camp, because he did not serve overseas on active service Alfred did not qualify for any awards
Even though Alfred Ernest Hyde did not go to war , he trained to go to the war, if the war had gone on for longer he would have gone, thankfully he didnt have to. Did he stand up when his country asked him too , I think so !!! Alfred got married to Eleanor Louise Wilkinson in 30 June 1915 but he still left his wife to go and train for war after first thinking about his family and what would happen if he was away, I never meet Alfred as he died before I was born but he lead a interesting life and he was missed by all his family RIP Mr Hyde